Legislature(1999 - 2000)

01/25/1999 01:35 PM Senate JUD

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          SB   2-CIVIL COMMITMENT OF SEXUAL PREDATORS                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. JULI LUCKY, staff to SENATOR HALFORD, presented SB 2 as a                                                                   
mechanism to protect society from serial rapists, pedophiles and                                                                
other sexual predators who are highly likely to re-offend.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. LUCKY said similar legislation has been enacted in 14 states                                                                
and has been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 576                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS reported that he was contacted with an amendment                                                                  
which clarifies that civilly committed sexual predators would not                                                               
be housed in expensive psychiatric facilities.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 99-03, SIDE B                                                                                                              
Number 001                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CARL BRIMNER, Director of the Division of Mental Health and                                                                 
Developmental Disabilities, remarked the department prefers the                                                                 
bill with the amendment recommended by SENATOR ELLIS. MR. BRIMNER                                                               
expressed concerns about the bill. First, the department is worried                                                             
that the bill may go forward with no fiscal note. MR. BRIMNER                                                                   
stated this is an expensive proposition.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HALFORD asked where people who have been deemed guilty but                                                              
mentally ill are currently housed. MR. BRIMNER replied they are                                                                 
housed at the Anchorage Psychiatric Institute (API). SENATOR                                                                    
HALFORD asked how long an individual might be held at API. MR.                                                                  
BRIMNER said they may be housed there for as long as they are                                                                   
incompetent to stand trial.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 565                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HALFORD remarked that sexual predators may be better off                                                                
housed at a facility other than API since in some cases resources                                                               
are wasted on people who are unlikely to be helped.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRIMNER mentioned that there is a difference between the                                                                    
population they are discussing in this bill and the population at                                                               
API. The difference is those who are at API now are biochemically                                                               
mentally ill and may be responsive to some type of treatment;                                                                   
"sexual predators" are not mentally ill, but have a personality                                                                 
disorder and do not respond to treatment or medication.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY asked if people who have committed crimes are mixed                                                              
into the general population at API and MR. BRIMNER replied they are                                                             
in a separate forensic unit.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TORGERSON inquired if four weeks is long enough for                                                                     
evaluation at API. MR. BRIMNER indicated four weeks would likely be                                                             
adequate time unless some treatment was involved.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TORGERSON asked if this might be contracted out. MR.                                                                    
BRIMNER said it would go out to bid, but to his knowledge, there is                                                             
no appropriate facility in Alaska at this time. A facility would                                                                
require both secure housing and a treatment program. SENATOR                                                                    
TORGERSON asked if yearly reevaluations of those committed would                                                                
really be necessary. MR. BRIMNER responded that reevaluation could                                                              
be done at longer intervals or could be contingent on progress.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 505                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS asked the difference between this amendment and the                                                               
language in the bill last year. MR. JERRY LUCKHAUPT, staff attorney                                                             
from  Legislative Legal Services, came forward to answer that                                                                   
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT explained that the old language did not allow these                                                               
people to be housed in a state run facility and the new language                                                                
does allow it in case the state may want to operate this type of                                                                
facility in the future.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 474                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT stated under the bill, civilly committed people have                                                              
to be under the care of the Department of Health and Social                                                                     
Services, not necessarily in a mental health facility, but separate                                                             
from other people who are committed for other reasons.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY asked if it was possible to broaden this category so                                                             
other classes of perpetrators could be housed with them. MR.                                                                    
LUCKHAUPT said the intent of the amendment requires housing them                                                                
apart from any other person under the jurisdiction of the                                                                       
Department of Health and Social Services. MR. LUCKHAUPT also                                                                    
explained that to keep the bill constitutional, these people may                                                                
not be housed in a correctional facility. SENATOR DONLEY remarked                                                               
this is a very narrow restriction that may be difficult to                                                                      
administer. He did not want to preclude the combination of these                                                                
people with other "mutually dangerous criminals."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 415                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR considered the possibility of building a facility                                                               
adjacent to a correctional facility. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR thought this                                                               
might allow some way to deal with these people without jeopardizing                                                             
mental health programs or prison administration.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONLEY commented that he would like the bill to allow for                                                               
more flexibility. SENATOR HALFORD stressed that the key is this                                                                 
commitment is for treatment, not punishment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 383                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS moved Amendment #1. SENATOR ELLIS described there may                                                             
not be any other class of people who could be lumped together with                                                              
these people and still have the bill remain constitutional. SENATOR                                                             
DONLEY suggested they should leave it up to the mental health                                                                   
experts to determine if such a population exists.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI stated the amendment came from the mental health                                                                  
experts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR observed that we may end up building a facility for                                                             
two or three people.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRIMNER repeated that this population of sexual predators with                                                              
deviant personalities are dissimilar from other mentally ill                                                                    
populations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI emphasized that the bill specifically allows for a                                                                
separate facility on the grounds of a correctional facility so long                                                             
as it is separate and under the administration of the Department of                                                             
Social Services.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. JEAN STEELE, testifying from Homer, agreed with the amendment                                                               
but insisted the bill should be clarified in regard to the                                                                      
definitions of mental illness versus insanity. MS. STEELE stated                                                                
personality disorders and antisocial behavior are not mental                                                                    
illnesses. MS. STEELE said and her primary concern is that                                                                      
offenders should be sentenced to and serve longer terms.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HALFORD stressed that the legal definition of mental                                                                    
illness is very different and much more expansive than the clinical                                                             
definition. The bill uses the legal definition.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 274                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LUCKHAUPT remarked the bill uses the definition of mental                                                                   
illness used in A.S.12.47.090: "any medical condition that                                                                      
increases the propensity of the defendant to be dangerous to the                                                                
public peace or safety." This definition is used in cases in which                                                              
a defendant who is found guilty is required to show he or she is                                                                
not a danger to society. This is similar to the process in which a                                                              
person might be civilly committed under this bill. MR. LUCKHAUPT                                                                
said this definition is different from "mental disease or defect"                                                               
which is the standard used for other involuntary civil commitments.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 230                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. PATRICIA KOURIS, representing the National Alliance for the                                                                 
Mentally Ill (NAMI) Alaska chapter, repeated the importance of                                                                  
housing these sexual predators separately from potentially                                                                      
vulnerable mentally ill patients like those at API.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BYRON CHARLES, from Ketchikan, testified to his support of the                                                              
bill. As a victim of sexual abuse and an ex-offender, MR. CHARLES                                                               
expressed concern with the evaluation process of prisoners now                                                                  
incarcerated. MR. CHARLES suggested better evaluation and treatment                                                             
of prisoners might lower the recidivism rates of sex offenders. MR.                                                             
CHARLES voiced the opinion that stricter sentences should also be                                                               
considered for offenders and repeat offenders, as any time they                                                                 
receive is no match for the suffering of their victims.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 140                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS moved a technical amendment to Amendment #1: on page                                                              
5, line 18 delete the words "mental health" and insert the word                                                                 
"treatment" and insert the word "treatment" on page 5, line 11.                                                                 
Without objection, the amendment to the amendment was adopted.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR stated the main amendment was now before the                                                                    
committee. Without objection, Amendment #1 (as amended) was                                                                     
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR noted there was additional public testimony and                                                                 
stated this would be taken up Wednesday @ 1:30.                                                                                 

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